THE 2007 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS THREAD

[Hamptons Howie]

You know this need to be started. The best team in the NFL needs its own thread.

[Hamptons Howie]

It was nice to see that the Colts can't handle crappy weather. What the hell happened Adam? You used to be money outdoors? Are you that adjusted to your dome already? HA HA HA

[SupermanBang]

Booo Pats!

lol. I suck, I'm a JETS fan, but their season is in the gutter! Since the beginning season.

[Onebufgirl]

It was nice to see that the Colts can't handle crappy weather. What the hell happened Adam? You used to be money outdoors? Are you that adjusted to your dome already? HA HA HA

Ummm are you talking to yourself Adam?

[Hamptons Howie]

Very funny there lady. Opps I was talking to you does that mean.....

[paulisded]

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[PetersonEffingLongName]

They deserve half the forum.

[PetersonEffingLongName]

It was nice to see that the Colts can't handle crappy weather. What the hell happened Adam? You used to be money outdoors? Are you that adjusted to your dome already? HA HA HA



Maybe his new quarterback can't get him as close as the old one did....

[iheartthreesomes]

Patriots rule. Randy Moss is a god.

[Irishcurse]

The Patriots are fun to watch, as long as they aren't playing your team.

[Hamptons Howie]

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Yeah I tend to do that by the second quarter when they are blowing out whoever they play.

[Irishcurse]

I can't wait till they play Mangina and the Jets. They will run this score up.

[Hamptons Howie]

That will be great. It's tough having three straight national television games. It rough being the best

[Hamptons Howie]

Looking to have a get together to watch the game in a couple of weeks. Anybody down?

[pat from lowell]

Championships never get old. 19-0 here we go, FUCK DON SHULA!!!!http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/patdei/846cfd2642_ortizhardware10302007.jpg

[pat from lowell]

Freeney's season likely over; ankle surgery probable
By Mike Chappell
mike.chappell@indystar.com
November 13, 2007


The latest injury might be the most damaging to the Indianapolis Colts, who apparently have lost Dwight Freeney for the rest of the season.
The three-time Pro Bowl defensive end probably faces surgery to repair damage to his left foot, according to a source close to Freeney. More excuses for Manning when they lose to the Pats in the playoffs.

[FalconsGuy]

I hate how good they are.

I do hope they run the table though. Just to make those old fucking dolphins freak out.

[iheartthreesomes]

i also hate it.


except iheartit.

[Mrlovkim]

Ummm are you talking to yourself Adam?

Thats what I noticed.

[sixxcrow]

As a Bills fan, it is going to be a very long and painful Sunday

[WeToYou]

Rofl.

Pats. Celtics. Red-sox.

Ownt.

[heymotherkisser]

:patriots:

[pat from lowell]

:patriots:Thanks for the team pics.

[Kevin From Connecticut]

:patriots:Thanks for the team pics.



Looks like my left arm

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[Kevin From Connecticut]

:patriots:Thanks for the team pics.


Looks like my left arm


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[Hamptons Howie]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/Mikiej34/week10.jpg

[Hamptons Howie]

Nuff' Said

[Red Sawx Nation]

:qft:

As a Bills fan, it is going to be a very long and painful Sunday

[sixxcrow]

i was embarrassed to be a Bills fan tonight.:sabres: (only Buffalo logo available)

[chris612]

I can't wait till they play Mangina and the Jets. They will run this score up.Jets HATERS!!!!

[chris612]

12/16/07...REMATCH BABY!!!! We got a QB now, J. E. T. S.

[theomegachrist]

I don't know how people can stand the Pats. What a hateable team they are.

I hope Tom Brady breaks his fibula.

[Hamptons Howie]

12/16/07...REMATCH BABY!!!! We got a QB now, J. E. T. S.
Ok so then the final score will be 72-7

[theomegachrist]

I think the Pats will drop 100 against the Jets even though I detest them.

Eric Mangini is a penguin looking tattle tale faggot.

[pat from lowell]

12/16/07...REMATCH BABY!!!! We got a QB now, J. E. T. S. Sorry Chris look for an ass whooping of epic proportions. I can't wait to see the handshake after that game.:pwned:

[Hamptons Howie]

12/16/07...REMATCH BABY!!!! We got a QB now, J. E. T. S.
You will also be getting the 32nd pick in the first round. But it's ok we still have the 49ers first pick GO NINERS!!!

[Hamptons Howie]

On the Mark: Pats flat-out dominant
Mark Kriegel / FOXSports.com
Posted: 1 hour ago

In the third quarter of the Patriots' 56-10 rout of the Buffalo Bills, the press box at Ralph Wilson Stadium became still with surprise when Tom Brady threw an incomplete pass. Even more shocking: One of the Bills' linebackers actually knocked him down.
With the bookmakers giving Buffalo 16.5 points, the Bills (along with the Dolphins in Week 7) were said to be the NFL's biggest home-field underdog since 1992. Still, that number proved 30 points light — and the Bills didn't even play that badly.

Jerry Sullivan, a columnist for The Buffalo News, was beside himself. "The Bills lose by 46 at home and I can't even rip them," he said. "What the hell's going on here?"

What's going on is an anomaly, something unlike anything in modern professional football. And even people like me, guys who can't stand Bill Belichick, have to admit a keen interest in New England. It's almost impossible not to watch the Patriots, as you've never watched anything quite like them before.

The Patriots are more than undefeated. They're beating teams by an average of 25.4 points a game, a figure that violates the artful science of bookmakers. According to the NFL's Randall Liu, only one team in the history of professional football team exceeded this margin. The 1942 Chicago Bears, playing in a league whose ranks were decimated by the World War II, outscored opponents by an average of 26.5 points a game. (That Bears team, as it happened, went 11-0, only to lose 14-6 to Washington in the championship game.) Two other teams averaged better than 20-point differentials: the 1941 Bears (22.6) and the 1920 Buffalo All-Americans (20.6).


But again, that was all before the advent of facemasks. In the modern era, there is no precedent for what the Patriots are doing. Consider the undefeated Miami Dolphins of 1972. Their regular-season margin of victory was 15.2. After the Super Bowl, it was 13.6. By contrast, the 2007 Patriots aren't just beating the odds. They're beating the oddsmakers, the only really smart guys in sports.

"It's been tough with the Patriots," said Sean Van Patten, an oddsmaker with Las Vegas Sports Consultants, a much-respected outfit that furnishes opening lines for most of the Nevada casinos. "Every week we've raised the numbers."

And every week, it seems, the Patriots raise them some more. At this point, the parlay sheets come with two seemingly free bets: New England and the over. Even the smart-money types who typically bet the underdogs are staying away from Pats.

Of course, this run has generated some interesting propositions. Going into Week 7, the prospect of an undefeated season was considered unlikely. A $100 bet would get you $270. Now those odds have all but turned upside down. The Pats are minus-160 to go undefeated, meaning you have to bet $160 to win $100.

For the record, they're giving 18 points against the Eagles this Sunday, 22 if Donovan McNabb doesn't play. Another point of interest: they're 24.5-point favorites against Miami next month. Part of the reason, Van Patten said, is Don Shula, coach of the '72 Dolphins, who recently suggested that Belichick's team might deserve an asterisk on account of Spygate.

So disregard coaches and players who say it's not personal. It's very personal, and none more so than the Patriots' date with the Jets Dec. 16 in Foxborough. The line is already 22, a number owing much to the fact that the Spygate whistle-blower was Jets coach Eric Mangini, a former Belichick protege.

"We definitely factor that in," said Van Patten, "Belichick wants to kill these guys. He'll put up 100 if he can."

It'll be fun watching him try. In the meantime, as no one figures the Patriots to actually lose a game, the sports books might want to come up with some new prop bets. For instance, at this point, it should be even money as to whether Brady gets his uniform dirty.

[theomegachrist]

I am a GBiants fan so I am biased but I think the Giants have the best shot. THe Pats might at least try to take it easy by then to avoid injury. Also itll be the strongest pash rush going after Brady probably of the year so do you risk him getting injured for an undefeated season? Tough call.

[chris612]

Ok so then the final score will be 72-7

Sorry Chris look for an ass whooping of epic proportions. I can't wait to see the handshake after that game.:pwned:

In the third quarter of the NY Jets' 56-10 rout of the New England Patriots..... says Fox sports!!! thanks for the article Hampton.... :argue:

[ronolson1972]

blah,blah,blah new england sucks. brady is a shitdick.

[Pest By Trade]

I'm waiting for this team to score 100 points this year

[pat from lowell]

blah,blah,blah new england sucks. brady is a shitdick. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/patdei/21868812---giselle_bundchen.jpg
Are you trying to say Giselle has a dick?

[chris612]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/patdei/21868812---giselle_bundchen.jpg
Are you trying to say Giselle has a dick?ahahahaha...fuckin Pat, nice line bro!!!

[Hamptons Howie]

Moss is more valuable than Brady
Jason Whitlock / FOXSports.com
Posted: 1 hour ago

No offense to Tom Brady, one of my favorite NFL players of all time, but Randy Moss is the MVP of the National Football League.
It ain't even close.

Seriously, denying Randy Moss this year's Associated Press MVP award would be borderline criminal. If Allen Iverson is the answer in basketball, Randy Moss is the question that no one in football can answer.

How do you stop him?

He can't be stopped; he can only slow himself, as he did for a couple of miserable years in Oakland.

Brady is on the brink of shattering every single-season passing record known to mankind and the Patriots are well on their way to smashing every scoring record. And we love nothing more in this country than showering superstar quarterbacks with awards, hype and credit.

But Randy Moss should not and cannot be denied this season. His impact on the football field is so obvious and so overwhelming that even Joe Buck should cast an MVP vote for Mr. Moss. The value of wide receivers has never been more evident than this season.


Terrell Owens earned Tony Romo a $67 million contract and paved the road Philly fans will use to escort Donovan McNabb out of town. Marvin Harrison went down with a knee injury, and Peyton Manning's feet got happy again and his interception total escalated.

Look, it's still a quarterback's league. Manning and McNabb are great players. Romo is headed for greatness. But they're significantly diminished without their favorite toys.

Moss is a kingmaker. This isn't the first time he made a good offense outstanding. The scoring record the Patriots are chasing is the standard Moss' 1998 Vikings established. In that same year, Moss, a rookie at the time, turned 35-year-old Randall Cunningham into the league's top passer. Cunningham threw 34 TDs and 10 INTs and the Vikings finished the regular season 15-1.

Denny Green looked as smart as Bill Belichick.

Randy, despite 17 TDs and 1,313 receiving yards, didn't win the MVP that year because Terrell Davis took a run at Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record, cracking 2,000 yards.

Well, the excuse this year will be Brady's numbers. I'm not knocking Brady. He's an incredible player. He's just not as valuable as Randy Moss.

There's only one Randy Moss. When he shows up motivated, focused and ready to have fun, records fall, defenses quiver, quarterbacks have once-in-a-lifetime seasons and his teams win ... by lots of points.

Moss is doing more for Brady than Brady is doing for Moss. The same thing could be said about Cunningham and Jeff George, who both looked Elway-esque winging footballs to Moss.

This week George pointed out to me what makes Moss different from every receiver who has ever played the game.

"Intimidation," George explained. "Defensive backs are trained to turn and play the football. Guys are too scared to turn away from Randy. You'll see two DBs running with Randy, but they'll never turn and find the football because they're too afraid to take their eyes off Randy. As a quarterback, you just throw it up to Randy no matter the coverage because you know he'll be only guy looking for the football."

How many times have we seen that this season — two guys wrapped around Randy and Brady floating a ball into traffic?

This isn't a co-MVP situation. It's not a slap at Brady, one of the three best QBs of all time.

It's long overdue recognition for Moss. It's long overdue acknowledgement that receivers — given today's rules about defensive-back contact and the prevalence of three- and four-receiver offenses — can have as much impact on a game as quarterbacks.

Moss reminds me of Shaquille O'Neal. We took O'Neal for granted during his prime on the basketball court, and he won just one MVP award. In retrospect that's ridiculous. O'Neal's impact on the NBA far exceeds Steve Nash's, and Nash has won multiple MVP awards.

Moss isn't likely to surpass Jerry Rice as the greatest of all time. Rice was too consistent and was a driving force in the 49ers dynasty. Rice vs. Moss will be like the Bill Russell-Wilt Chamberlain debate. Except we didn't deny Wilt a few MVP trophies.

Let's no longer deny Randy Moss. Yes, he used to be extremely immature. His effort at times was atrocious. None of that matters this year. With defenses doing everything within reason to slow him, Moss has 16 TD receptions, more than 1,000 receiving yards, the Patriots are 10-0, and, most important, Moss has made Tom Brady the second-most-valuable player in football.


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[pat from lowell]

Moss is more valuable than Brady
Jason Whitlock / FOXSports.com
Posted: 1 hour ago

No offense to Tom Brady, one of my favorite NFL players of all time, but Randy Moss is the MVP of the National Football League.
It ain't even close.

Seriously, denying Randy Moss this year's Associated Press MVP award would be borderline criminal. If Allen Iverson is the answer in basketball, Randy Moss is the question that no one in football can answer.

How do you stop him?

He can't be stopped; he can only slow himself, as he did for a couple of miserable years in Oakland.

Brady is on the brink of shattering every single-season passing record known to mankind and the Patriots are well on their way to smashing every scoring record. And we love nothing more in this country than showering superstar quarterbacks with awards, hype and credit.

But Randy Moss should not and cannot be denied this season. His impact on the football field is so obvious and so overwhelming that even Joe Buck should cast an MVP vote for Mr. Moss. The value of wide receivers has never been more evident than this season.


Terrell Owens earned Tony Romo a $67 million contract and paved the road Philly fans will use to escort Donovan McNabb out of town. Marvin Harrison went down with a knee injury, and Peyton Manning's feet got happy again and his interception total escalated.

Look, it's still a quarterback's league. Manning and McNabb are great players. Romo is headed for greatness. But they're significantly diminished without their favorite toys.

Moss is a kingmaker. This isn't the first time he made a good offense outstanding. The scoring record the Patriots are chasing is the standard Moss' 1998 Vikings established. In that same year, Moss, a rookie at the time, turned 35-year-old Randall Cunningham into the league's top passer. Cunningham threw 34 TDs and 10 INTs and the Vikings finished the regular season 15-1.

Denny Green looked as smart as Bill Belichick.

Randy, despite 17 TDs and 1,313 receiving yards, didn't win the MVP that year because Terrell Davis took a run at Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record, cracking 2,000 yards.

Well, the excuse this year will be Brady's numbers. I'm not knocking Brady. He's an incredible player. He's just not as valuable as Randy Moss.

There's only one Randy Moss. When he shows up motivated, focused and ready to have fun, records fall, defenses quiver, quarterbacks have once-in-a-lifetime seasons and his teams win ... by lots of points.

Moss is doing more for Brady than Brady is doing for Moss. The same thing could be said about Cunningham and Jeff George, who both looked Elway-esque winging footballs to Moss.

This week George pointed out to me what makes Moss different from every receiver who has ever played the game.

"Intimidation," George explained. "Defensive backs are trained to turn and play the football. Guys are too scared to turn away from Randy. You'll see two DBs running with Randy, but they'll never turn and find the football because they're too afraid to take their eyes off Randy. As a quarterback, you just throw it up to Randy no matter the coverage because you know he'll be only guy looking for the football."

How many times have we seen that this season — two guys wrapped around Randy and Brady floating a ball into traffic?

This isn't a co-MVP situation. It's not a slap at Brady, one of the three best QBs of all time.

It's long overdue recognition for Moss. It's long overdue acknowledgement that receivers — given today's rules about defensive-back contact and the prevalence of three- and four-receiver offenses — can have as much impact on a game as quarterbacks.

Moss reminds me of Shaquille O'Neal. We took O'Neal for granted during his prime on the basketball court, and he won just one MVP award. In retrospect that's ridiculous. O'Neal's impact on the NBA far exceeds Steve Nash's, and Nash has won multiple MVP awards.

Moss isn't likely to surpass Jerry Rice as the greatest of all time. Rice was too consistent and was a driving force in the 49ers dynasty. Rice vs. Moss will be like the Bill Russell-Wilt Chamberlain debate. Except we didn't deny Wilt a few MVP trophies.

Let's no longer deny Randy Moss. Yes, he used to be extremely immature. His effort at times was atrocious. None of that matters this year. With defenses doing everything within reason to slow him, Moss has 16 TD receptions, more than 1,000 receiving yards, the Patriots are 10-0, and, most important, Moss has made Tom Brady the second-most-valuable player in football.


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Great article Mike, Brady was always good, but the receiving corp this year has made him great,and Moss is at the top of that list.

[MultipleMiggs]

It's quite pathetic to see the haters in this thread that can't admit that the Pats are without question the best there is, was, or ever will be. Jealousy is an ugly fucken trait, that's for sure!

[Davefromphilly]

It's quite pathetic to see the haters in this thread that can't admit that the Pats are without question the best there is, was, or ever will be. Jealousy is an ugly fucken trait, that's for sure!

Fuck the Pats. Go Birdz!!!!

Whatever just don't beat us more than 23.5 points so daddy can pay his student loans off.

[MultipleMiggs]

Fuck the Pats. Go Birdz!!!!

Whatever just don't beat us more than 23.5 points so daddy can pay his student loans off.

Ya should've taken the Pats Dave...I'm thinking 28 point win this weekend.

[theomegachrist]

That column on Moss is so true. Moss is so far beyone the ability of any ther receiver. It is a travesty if Brady wins it over himj. He probably will though receivers never win it.

[chris612]

Fuck the Pats. Go Birdz!!!!

Whatever just don't beat us more than 23.5 points so daddy can pay his student loans off.
Fuck the Birds!!!! ...... its shotgun season dude

[chris612]

It's quite pathetic to see the haters in this thread that can't admit that the Pats are without question the best there is, was, or ever will be. Jealousy is an ugly fucken trait, that's for sure!

was your post taken from Hampton Howies talkin points???...ive heard this before!!! lol

[Kevin From Connecticut]

The fact that the Pats are doing so well is absolutely satisfying to us fans that were there in 1990 when they won 1 game. I just can't believe they're smashing every record to do it.

[Tony's bitch]

I'm a Steelers fan, but the Pats are the best team I've ever seen. They aren't beating teams , they are destroying them. I can't wait until they play the Jets again, I hope the hang 100 pts on them, just to show we don't need to be taping your signals.

[pat from lowell]

By Associated Press | Friday, November 23, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | N.E. Patriots PHILADELPHIA - Need extra cash for holiday shopping? Take the Patriots [team stats] and give the points — no matter how large the number.

Bettors putting their money on New England have cashed in so often this season, oddsmakers are forced to inflate the line. This week, they’ve made the undefeated Patriots more than three touchdown-favorites over the Philadelphia Eagles.

The Glantz-Culver line was 22 on Friday. Several Las Vegas sportsbooks and a few offshore Internet gambling sites listed it at 24. It reached 24�½ at the Las Vegas Hilton. If the number stays that high or goes up, it would be the largest known spread for an NFL game.

San Francisco was a 24-point favorite against Cincinnati on Dec. 5, 1993, according to Keith Glantz, co-author of the Glantz-Culver Line. The 49ers won 21-8.

The Patriots are 9-1 against the spread and winning by an average margin of 25.4 points, including nine victories by more than 17 points. They’ve scored more than 34 points nine times, and their only close game of the season was a 24-20 win in Indianapolis.

Richard Gardner, manager at Costa Rica-based Bodoglife.com, explained why New England’s line gets higher every week.

"It’s not so much that the bookmakers don’t think the Pats can cover lines over 20 as they’ve proven all season that they can. The bookmakers are trying to set the line so high that it will scare off a lot of bettors," Gardner said. "Unfortunately, the bettors keep betting on the Patriots regardless of the line and the Patriots are doing their part."

Even local bookies, including a few in Eagles-crazed South Philly, are keeping this one around 23 or 24. Normally, they shift it 1�½-2 points because the hometown action naturally is on the Eagles.

Not this week.

"They love their Eagles, but they ain’t stupid," said a bookie known as Paulie Walnuts because he bears a striking resemblance to the character on "The Sopranos" with that nickname.

Anthony Traverisi, a die-hard Eagles fan with the team’s helmet tattooed on his calf, plans to put a large sum on New England. He claimed betting the Patriots paid his mortgage twice since September.

"I’d feel like a traitor if the number was smaller and I bet against the Eagles," he said. "They ain’t winning anything this year, so I’m going where the money’s at."

The line opened at 17�½ in many places, but went up when Donovan McNabb couldn’t practice because of ankle and thumb injuries. McNabb is listed as doubtful, so A.J. Feeley could start at quarterback for Philadelphia (5-5).

"I don’t know how all of that works, and I don’t care," Eagles coach Andy Reid said of the point spread. "I don’t get into all of that. I prepare every week the same. I don’t understand it all. We just take care of business here and make sure we prepare ourselves the right way. We don’t get into point spreads and all that stuff."

Players insisted all week that being heavy underdogs doesn’t motivate them any more than trying to keep their playoff hopes alive and become the first team to defeat the Patriots.

"If you need fuel right now, being 5-5, going against a team who is 10-0, if you need any more fuel than that, then something is wrong," safety Brian Dawkins said. "If you need some kind of booster cables to jump you, added to that, then something’s wrong; you’re in the wrong business, you’re in the wrong game. I need nothing else right now to get me hyped and excited about this game."

Halfback Brian Westbrook agreed.

"I’m motivated by the opportunity to go out there and play another football game," he said.

Making money motivates the gambling public. Helping Eagles fans pay their mortgages. Got to love the Patriots.

[Hamptons Howie]

See now this is a good thread find good stories and post them for everybody to read. Keep it up guys.

[chris612]

See now this is a good thread find good stories and post them for everybody to read. Keep it up guys.

any chance, Mangini is on the ticket? Go Jets !!! ....

[Hamptons Howie]

McNabb ruled out for New England game
/ Associated Press
Posted: 16 minutes ago

The Philadelphia Eagles will play No. 2 quarterback A.J. Feeley against New England on Sunday night because they have to.
The New England Patriots might use their backup, too.

Because they want to.

Donovan McNabb did not practice this week to rest his sore ankle and thumb, and on Saturday the Eagles said he will not play against the Patriots. Feeley will have to try to stop New England as it litters the roadside with opponents on its quest for a perfect 19-0 record.

"Right now, they're the best team in the National Football League, and we understand that," Philadelphia coach Andy Reid said. "It's very well-deserved."

The Eagles and Patriots (10-0) are meeting in a meaningful game for the first time since the 2005 Super Bowl, which New England won 24-21. If Philadelphia (5-5) was ever eager for a rematch, it drew a bad spot to get one: The Patriots are even better than the day they won their third NFL title, Reid concedes, and maybe better than any team he's ever seen.


"I have a hard time, as I think about it, thinking of anybody that's done it better for 10 games than what the Patriots have done right now," Reid said. "Everything seems a little more poignant when you're sitting here having to play them and they're doing it at the present. There have been some good offenses before, but they're doing it very well right now."

The numbers bear him out: The Patriots could clinch the AFC East title before they take the field Sunday night, and they aren't likely to stop there. Oddsmakers favor them to run the table through the Super Bowl, which would surpass the 17-0 record of the 1972 Miami Dolphins — the NFL's only perfect season.

Along the way, New England could set records for points and average margin of victory. The Patriots are averaging 41 points per game, and only one of their opponents has come within 16; in their other games, Tom Brady has thrown an average of five passes in the fourth quarter before watching his backups finish off another win.

But that's not soon enough for some opponents, who accuse the Patriots of poor sportsmanship for running up the score after the game is no longer in doubt.

"The mentality is, 'Let's pursue greatness,' and not just, 'Hey, let's get wins,"' fullback Heath Evans explained. "How can we beat this team to the maximum? That's the way we're coached, that's the way we're prepared, and that's the way were taught to think."

In Sunday's 56-10 victory over Buffalo, Brady threw for five touchdown passes — four to Randy Moss — and the pair didn't come out of the game until there were 11 minutes left. Brady said he stays in the game because the team still has things to work on, but he also acknowledged that he wants opponents to be intimidated by the prospect of playing such a proficient team.

"We're trying to play extremely well," Brady said on the radio this week. "We're not trying to win 42-28; we're trying to kill people. We're trying to blow them out if we can."

Brady skipped his Wednesday media session with reporters this week, and he scooted through the Patriots' locker room Friday without commenting.

"That's their attitude right now: 'Either you're going to stop us or you're not. If you can't stop us, then we're going to continue to do what we do,"' Eagles safety Brian Dawkins said. "They're saying that we're going to score as many points as we can once our offense is on the field, and it's up to you to stop us. So, that's the challenge that we have ahead of us."

McNabb did not practice all week because of the sore ankle and thumb he hurt against Miami, when Feeley led the Eagles to a pair of touchdowns in Philadelphia's 17-7 victory over the winless Dolphins.

The Patriots have no such concerns.

Brady has 38 touchdown passes and is on pace to break Peyton Manning's single-season record of 49 despite frequently sitting out the fourth quarter. Moss needs just six more TD catches in the last six games to match Jerry Rice's record of 22.

"We're not intimidated by the team," Eagles running back Brian Westbrook said. "As a football player, you don't go into the game intimidated. We respect what they've done, we respect the fact that they've scored a lot of points, and it's up to us to neutralize their scoring ability and put some points on the board ourselves."


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[winged-eel]

I'm waiting for this team to score 100 points this year

Maybe more than that.... :)

[winged-eel]

BANGKOK (Reuters) - A proposed new law to boost patriotism in Thailand would be "chaotic" because it would require motorists to stop when the national anthem is played twice a day, lawmakers said Friday.

A vote on the Flag Bill proposed by a group of retired and active duty generals in the army-appointed parliament was deferred Thursday to allow a committee to study it.

"It would be chaotic if the bill had passed as it is now. So the National Legislative Assembly decided to set up a panel to review it," NLA member Wallop Tangkananurak told Reuters. The bill's supporters say road traffic should stop nationwide when the anthem is played during the raising and lowering of the flag "to preserve tradition and instill patriotism in Thais."

:qft:
Nevermind.

[pat from lowell]

By John Tomase / NFL Notes | Sunday, November 25, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | N.E. Patriots


Moments after the Patriots [team stats] annihilated the Bills, 56-10, last week, wide receiver Randy Moss was asked a question.

“Can this offense play better?” he said. “Of course we can.”

If he’s telling the truth, it’s a terrifying thought. The Patriots have a real chance to rewrite the record books, and not just by finishing the season undefeated.

A number of hallowed (and not so hallowed) marks are on pace to fall, which would fully cement the Pats’ place in history as the greatest team in pro football history.

If that sounds like overkill, think again. Not only do the Patriots have a legitimate shot at becoming the first 19-0 team in history, they also could obliterate just about every scoring record in the process. If those two facts don’t combine to make this a legacy season, nothing does.

Everyone from Moss to Tom Brady [stats] to Stephen Gostkowski has a chance to etch their names in the books. By the time these Pats are done, there might not be any records left.

“The New England Patriots [team stats] are threatening to show themselves as the greatest team we’ve ever seen,” former Giants running back Tiki Barber said. “It’s hard to argue. Whether you’re rooting for the perfect season or not, it’s certainly exciting to think about them going 19-0 in dominating fashion.”

How dominating? Consider the records that might fall, with the current holder listed first. There are enough to fill the next two pages.

Points By A Team

556: Minnesota, 1998

541: Washington, 1983

540: St. Louis, 2000

This is the biggie. The Patriots have 411 in 10 games (41.1 average) and could break the Vikings’ mark when they face the Jets in Week 14. That undoubtedly would please the coaching staff.

The Pats are on pace to score 657 points, which is nearly 20 percent higher than second place. Of the teams left on their schedule, they’ve already dropped 49 on one (Miami), and they’ll have all the incentive in the world to go a good bit higher against another (the traitorous Jets).

The Ravens have had trouble stopping teams through the air, while the Eagles allowed the other elite offense they faced (Dallas) to score 38 points.

That leaves the Steelers and Giants, two of the better defensive squads in the league. But neither is likely to shut down the high-flying Pats. “We’ve seen these first 10 weeks of the season what this team can do,” Eagles running back Brian Westbrook said. “They can put up points on the board very quickly.”

Touchdowns By A Team

70: Miami, 1984

67: St. Louis 2000

The Patriots have 54 touchdowns -- 38 through the air, 10 on the ground, four defensively, and two on kickoff returns. That puts them on pace for 86, an insane total.

Jumping from 70 to 86 would be the football equivalent of watching the single-season home run record make a similar leap, which would be Ruthian.

The only question as far as this record goes is if the Patriots will continue to score so easily during the final six weeks of the season, when all of their games are in the Northeast and the weather could be factor.

Then again, the temperature was right around freezing when the Pats played the Bills last Sunday, and they still scored 56.

The touchdown record, not surprisingly, dovetails with the record for most extra points, which is 70 for Miami’s Uwe von Schamann in 1984. Gostkowski obviously is on pace to shatter that one.

First Downs

398: Kansas City, 2004

387: Miami, 1984

383: Denver, 2000

The Patriots are on pace to destroy this record, too. At their current rate, they’ll move the chains 422 times.

To use another baseball analogy, this statistic is sort of like on-base percentage. Every first down keeps the ball in your hands and away from the opposition. It signifies that more than quick strikes, the Patriots are embarking on the kind of demoralizing drives that break a team’s spirit.

There’s been a lot of spirit-breaking this year.

What’s also interesting is that two of those top three teams predominantly were run-oriented, with the exception of the 1984 Dolphins. It makes sense that first downs would be piled up by a team moving the ball on the ground in small increments.

What it partly means for the Pats is that they’re sustaining long drives with the pass -- 164 of their first downs have come through the air, 91 on the ground. It also means they’re not going three and out very often.

Touchdown Passes

49: Peyton Manning, 2004

48: Dan Marino, 1984

44: Dan Marino, 1986

There are very few revered numbers in football, but this is one.

Dan Marino’s record stood for 20 years before Peyton Manning and the Colts unleashed what many considered the most dominant offense we’d see in this era.

Then the Patriots came along, and now all bets are off. With 38 touchdowns in his first 10 games, Brady already ranks seventh all-time. He’s on pace to throw 60 TDs, and if his recent pace is any indication, he could break Manning’s record in two weeks against the Steelers.

So much for the idea of Brady being the guy who always won without stats. Now he’s got both.

Passer Rating

121.1: Peyton Manning, 2004

112.8: Steve Young, 1994

112.4: Joe Montana, 1989

This is an imperfect stat for a couple of reasons. One, it’s hard to compute without a spreadsheet, weighing touchdowns, interceptions, completion percentage and more to yield a rating number.

For another, it has a ceiling. Once a QB’s rating reaches 158.3, it doesn’t go any higher.

Normally this wouldn’t happen, since the “perfect” rating is supposed to be unattainable. But Brady is making his bid. He currently sits at 134.0, not that he’s taking any credit for it.

“Offensively, football is such a team concept,” he said. “Everyone relies on everyone to be successful. The receivers rely on each other to get open. I rely on the offensive line to give me protection and the running backs to make blocks. We’ve developed great chemistry.”

Touchdown Receptions

22: Jerry Rice, 1987

18: Mark Clayton, 1984

18: Sterling Sharpe, 1994

With 16 in his first 10 games, Moss is on pace for 25. What’s amazing is that Jerry Rice set the record in only 12 games during the strike-shortened 1987 season.

During a four-game stretch earlier this year, defenses seemed to focus more on stopping Moss. Cleveland, Dallas and Washington each kept him below 60 yards, and he managed only single TDs against the Cowboys and Redskins.

He’s topped 100 yards in three of his past four games, however, with eight touchdowns, which means it might be time for teams to double Moss all day and take their chances with Stallworth and Welker.

Either way, Moss has to be considered a pretty strong challenger to Rice’s mark.

100-Yard Receiving Games

11: Michael Irvin, 1995

10: Four players tied

With seven 100-yard games already, Moss is on pace to tie Michael Irvin’s mark. Whether the Patriots dial back his workload to gear up for the playoffs remains to be seen.

They typically haven’t been the type of team that likes to take its foot off the gas.

Fewest Punts

32: Chicago, 1941

That’s the record for a non-strike year, though it should be noted the NFL was only an 11-game season back then. At his current pace, Chris Hanson will boot just 35 punts this season, which won’t even qualify him for the league leaders.

He will, in effect, earn a full-time check for being a part-time player. WOW!!!!:patriots:

[Hamptons Howie]

Congrats to the Pats winning the title while warming up getting ready to dismantle the Iggles

[Davefromphilly]

Ya should've taken the Pats Dave...I'm thinking 28 point win this weekend.

I'm the fuckin shit! We woulda won outright too if A.J. didnt shit the bed in our last 2 possesions.

[Davefromphilly]

Fuck the Birds!!!! ...... its shotgun season dude


k, and its never American Eagle hunting season... bad call. :slap:

[Hamptons Howie]

I'm the fuckin shit! We woulda won outright too if A.J. didnt shit the bed in our last 2 possesions.
That was a tough game AJ should be happy he kept them in it all game. Plus Lito was the man tonight.

[Davefromphilly]

That was a tough game AJ should be happy he kept them in it all game. Plus Lito was the man tonight.

Yea Lito did great with moss. Dawkins shoulda had that one missed pick too. It was a great game though.

[theomegachrist]

Shows the Pats arent unbeatable. That is a good sign.

[chris612]

k, and its never American Eagle hunting season... bad call. :slap:
American Eagles are cool!!! no shoot'n them.... philly played well, didnt think they could put more than 3 plays together...go figure.

[pat from lowell]

American Eagles are cool!!! no shoot'n them.... philly played well, didnt think they could put more than 3 plays together...go figure.A. J. Feeley. was lights out, except for the 2 interceptions. Thank God for, Assante Samuel.

[pat from lowell]

By Karen Guregian | Tuesday, November 27, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | N.E. Patriots
FOXBORO - There no longer should be any doubt or question about Asante Samuel [stats]’s ability.

Or earning power.

Sunday night following the Pats’ 31-28 win against the Eagles, in which Samuel came away with two of the biggest plays of the game - a pair of interceptions - teammate Rodney Harrison [stats] called him the “best corner” in the game.

If that wasn’t enough of a glowing tribute, he might have received the ultimate compliment yesterday.

The last person you’d expect to throw out a status indicator, especially in a contract year, planted one on him, as Pats coach Bill Belichick acknowledged Samuel’s place in the pecking order of cornerbacks.

When asked if he considered Samuel to be an elite corner, Belichick answered: “Absolutely.”

Can you say, cha-ching?

Without question Samuel, who will be an unrestricted free agent next season - or just as soon as the Pats earn their 12th win, which guarantees the club won’t franchise him next year - has earned himself a huge payday.

He has backed up last season’s performance with one that’s on its way to being just as good, if not better. At the moment, he is tied for the league lead in interceptions with six.

Samuel has continued to improve and rise in stature at his position. Teams shy away from throwing in his direction, and when they do, typically, they pay a price.

Eagles backup quarterback A.J. Feeley threw for more than 300 yards - most of those coming against defensive backs other than Samuel. When he did throw in that direction, the cornerback picked him off first for a 40-yard touchdown return, and later in the end zone to help seal the game.

There didn’t seem to be much angst when Samuel and the Patriots [team stats] couldn’t hammer out a long-term deal during the window they had before he signed his $7.79 million franchise tender.

Imagine the fallout now if he can’t be re-signed down the road? Imagine trying to fill his shoes?

“Asante has always been a playmaker ever since he’s been here. His confidence has skyrocketed. Why wouldn’t it? He’s a playmaker,” Richard Seymour [stats] said yesterday. “He understands the defense. Most importantly, he has the fundamentals and the technique and the footwork that has made him into if not the top corner in the league, definitely 1-2.

“He’s just a great teammate to have, and he’s a fun guy to be around. He doesn’t take it too serious, but it’s very important to him. That’s the way you have to play this game.”

Nate Clements signed an eight-year $80 million contract, $22 million of it guaranteed, with the San Francisco 49ers. Dre Bly signed a five-year, $33 million contract with the Denver Broncos that included $18 million in bonus money, $16 million of it guaranteed.

Thus far, Samuel has done his part. He’s played like an “elite” corner. He continues to make the big plays that win games.

“To me, he’s the best corner in the league,” Harrison said after the game. “Week in, week out, he proves it. He makes plays, and that’s what guys do who are the best. He makes plays all over the field.”

Belichick was hard-pressed to argue.

“He’s made a lot of big plays for us,” Belichick said. “Asante’s got good hands, and if the quarterback makes a mistake around him, than he usually makes them pay for it. That’s what impact, turnover players do on defense. They make the offenses pay for mistakes.”

Samuel has made them pay, all right. Eventually, the Pats will have to pay, too. He deserves to get paid.:patriots:

[Hamptons Howie]

Here's how you beat the Patriots
John Czarnecki / FOXSports.com
Posted: 15 hours ago

Yes, the Eagles almost won. Yes, they became the first big underdog to cover the Vegas spread. But the bottom line remains that New England is still unbeaten and even on one of their worst nights defensively, the Patriots still won. They are a remarkable team although Sunday night they did appear vulnerable to Philadelphia's aggressive tactics.
Here are five things the rest of the NFL can take from the Eagles' "almost" win:

1. Teams must be physical with Randy Moss and the other New England receivers.

Philadelphia's cornerbacks jammed Moss as much as possible at the line of scrimmage and always made sure to bump him within the allowable five yards. Tom Brady still fired 12 passes toward Moss, but he managed only five catches for 43 yards. It was only the second time this season Moss went without a touchdown catch (the Browns allowed him only three receptions in Week 5). Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson designed a defense hoping to negate the big, over-the-top receptions to Moss and it worked.

However, while limiting Moss, it opened up the shorter passing lanes for Wes Welker, who had a career game with 13 catches for 149 yards. Welker was elusive after the catch although he also failed to score a touchdown. So while the strategy worked in slowing down Moss, the Patriots flipped over to Welker and also hit Donte Stallworth for a 31-yard gain. Once again, the Patriots proved they may have too many athletes on offense to ever be totally shut down.


2 You must vary your blitzes on Tom Brady.

The Eagles did a tremendous job in this area while sacking Brady three times. Afterward, Brady admitted he took some of the most physical hits all season in this game. Are we sensing a trend here? Defenses must sell out coverage at times in order to be physical with Brady, Moss and Co. But what helped the Eagles with this game plan was that New England opened in a spread formation and in shotgun. The Patriots passed 25 times and called only two runs in the first half. It's this unbalanced offensive approach that may eventually be New England's undoing.

With Brady working from the shotgun, it helped Philadelphia's pressure because they could time the snap count better. Cadence is an important part of slowing down the rush and Brady could have altered his counts had he been over center. So, essentially, the Patriots played into the Eagles' game plan a little here. Johnson also devised a significant wrinkle to his scheme by using linebacker Chris Gocong as a linebacker/defensive end. Johnson brought an extra blitzer on 50 percent of Brady's 57 pass plays and Gocong fit into that role nicely. It confused Brady at times, leading to sacks and also his season-high 20 incompletions.

3. You must gamble and go deeper with your passing game.

Whether or not you believe A.J. Feeley should be starting over Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia, the important aspect of this game was Andy Reid's belief that the Patriots could be beaten on deep posts and slants. Feeley also played the game with a gunslinger's mentality and that's why he felt he lost the game with his two fourth-quarter interceptions. But up until those late miscues, the Eagles were brazen with their attack and it almost worked.

Without question, Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel is one of the game's best. He proved that with a game-opening touchdown return of an interception. His second interception also sealed the precarious win for the Patriots. But the rest of the New England secondary is not great. Safety Rodney Harrison is better near the line of scrimmage and right cornerback Ellis Hobbs can be beaten. The Eagles consistently found open receivers when New England was using six defensive backs. Now, coach Bill Belichick seemed to think that some of his players were out of position on a couple Philadelphia touchdowns based on his animated sideline behavior.

And, like Jimmy Johnson said on the Fox pregame show, you also have to gamble with onside kicks and on fourth-down possessions. The Eagles did both and were successful. The only way to beat New England is to keep the ball away from Brady ... and if you've got to gamble to do that, then so be it.

4. You must be able to pass block on the edges.

We all thought that New England had a better pass rush than the one they showed against Philadelphia. But the Eagles made sure to protect Feeley, who basically remained steady in the pocket. Yes, he was dropped twice but for only nine yards in losses. Feeley rushed a few throws, but basically the Eagles handled New England's pressure. Outside linebacker Mike Vrabel wasn't causing any havoc and that was a testament to Philadelphia's offensive linemen.

You didn't see Patriot defenders running free at Feeley and knocking him to the ground. He had time to throw. This is a basic premise of pro football and Philadelphia handled New England's front seven better than anyone has all season. And this wasn't some unconventional scheme; the Eagles simply sucked it up and old-timers like Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan played excellent games. Ditto for guard Shawn Andrews. When Feeley ran a quarterback sneak on fourth down, he ran right behind Andrews and converted the first down easily.

5. You need a versatile running back.

I was chastised in some circles for putting Brian Westbrook (and Adrian Peterson) on my midseason All-Pro team, but Westbrook's versatility was critical to Philadelphia's game plan. Westbrook has tremendous explosion, but he's also invaluable in the team concept. He picked up pass rushers when he was supposed to and he didn't whiff on any blocks. Now, Westbrook's overall numbers weren't awesome (92 yards on 24 touches), but he did score a touchdown and kept many a drive alive with a gutsy run or pass reception. And, as usual, Westbrook didn't fumble.

You could tell that the Patriots respected and feared Westbrook, knowing that they had to keep an eye on him. Now, not every team has a player of this caliber, but if anyone is going to beat the Patriots they must not be afraid to run in an attempt to keep the ball away from Brady. One of the best elements in Philadelphia's night was its ability to convert eight of 13 third-down plays against the NFL's best third-down defense. Westbrook played a huge role in that regard.


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[Hamptons Howie]

PATRIOTS IN THE PLAYOFFS
The Patriots clinched the 2007 AFC East title by virtue of Buffalo’s loss at Jacksonville this afternoon. The Patriots have now won five straight division titles and have won the division six times in seven seasons since 2001. The Patriots have set a record for the most consecutive division championships in AFC East Division history. New England has won eight division titles in the 14 seasons since Robert Kraft bought the team in 1994.

PATRIOTS TIE EARLIEST DIVISION CLINCH SINCE 1978
The Patriots have clinched the AFC East during the weekend of their 11th game of the season, tying the earliest division clinch since the NFL established the 16-game schedule in 1978. Three other teams have clinched their division during the weekend of their 11th game since 1978 - the 1985 Chicago Bears, the 1997 San Francisco 49ers and the 2004 Philadelphia Eagles.

PATRIOTS IN THE PLAYOFFS
New England has now qualified for the playoffs 16 times in its 48-year history. The Patriots have earned 10 playoff berths in the 14 seasons since Robert Kraft purchased the team in 1994, a dramatic contrast to the six total playoff berths that the team earned in its first 34 years of existence. New England has won 11 division crowns and has qualified as a Wild Card team on four occasions (1998, 1994, 1985 and 1976). The Patriots also qualified for the playoffs in 1982 as part of a 16-team tournament following a players’ strike.

PLAYOFF PERFORMERS
The Patriots are the only team in the NFL to have won at least one playoff game in each of the last four seasons.

SUSTAINED PLAYOFF SUCCESS
The Patriots have won 12 playoff games since 2001, tying the NFL’s second highest playoff victory total over a six-year span.

TITLE TOWN
The Patriots have won five straight AFC East titles, setting the all-time record for consecutive titles in that division. New England’s five straight AFC East crowns tops the four straight division titles by the Buffalo Bills from 1988-91 and by the Miami Dolphins on two occasions. The Patriots have won six of the last seven division crowns. The Patriots have won eight division titles in the 14 seasons since Robert Kraft bought the team in 1994.

HOME SWEET HOME
The Patriots are 9-1 at home in the playoffs in their history and own a 9-game home winning streak in postseason play. By winning the 2007 AFC East division title, the Patriots are assured of hosting at least one home playoff game this season. New England has not lost at home in the playoffs in nearly 29 years, dating back to Dec. 31, 1978. Nine of the franchise’s 10 home playoff games have taken place since Robert Kraft purchased the team 13 years ago.

HOME SWEET HOME
The Patriots are 9-1 at home in the playoffs in their history and own a 9-game home winning streak in postseason play. By winning the 2007 AFC East division title, the Patriots are assured of hosting at least one home playoff game this season. New England has not lost at home in the playoffs in nearly 29 years, dating back to Dec. 31, 1978. Nine of the franchise’s 10 home playoff games have taken place since Robert Kraft purchased the team 13 years ago.

[Kevin From Connecticut]

I love the fact that the Pat's are doing so incredibly well. That being said, I HATE having to wait for Sunday or even Monday night to watch 'em play. I understand that they put the Pats' games on in prime-time so more people can watch them, but my weekends are now spent just waiting for MY team to play.

[chris612]

I love the fact that the Pat's are doing so incredibly well. That being said, I HATE having to wait for Sunday or even Monday night to watch 'em play. I understand that they put the Pats' games on in prime-time so more people can watch them, but my weekends are now spent just waiting for MY team to play.
WAAAAaaaaaa! ..... KFC rulezz!!!

[Kevin From Connecticut]

WAAAAaaaaaa! ..... KFC rulezz!!!

That was kinda bitchy, huh?

[chris612]

I love the fact that the Pat's are doing so incredibly well. That being said, I HATE having to wait for Sunday or even Monday night to watch 'em play. I understand that they put the Pats' games on in prime-time so more people can watch them, but my weekends are now spent just waiting for MY team to play.

WAAAAaaaaaa! ..... KFC rulezz!!!

That was kinda bitchy, huh?

Not at ALL sir, i just dread the weekend knowin my JETS will loose again!!! ....sigh

[Hamptons Howie]

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[Kevin From Connecticut]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/Mikiej34/Pats_schedule.jpg

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chris612]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/Mikiej34/Pats_schedule.jpg
lol...your an asshole!!!

[Hamptons Howie]

Pats gave Evans a career he thought was over

01:00 AM EST on Saturday, December 1, 2007

BY ROBERT LEE

Journal Sports Writer

FOXBORO — Two years ago, New England running back Heath Evans thought his NFL career had come to an end.

After boarding up his Florida house to prepare for Hurricane Wilma, Evans found out that the Dolphins had cut him.

“It was the first time I ever got cut from anything,” Evans said. “I told my wife it was over. Then I said, ‘Hey, I don’t care who calls.’ I love this game. I love playing it. I love playing it hard. When you get slapped in the face like that, especially as a starting fullback — you don’t expect as a starter to get cut or released, so it was a whirlwind of events.”

When Corey Dillon got injured, the Patriots called Evans and decided to give him a shot. They signed him on Nov. 1, 2005, and he has been with the Patriots ever since.

Evans is a 6-foot, 250-pound blocking fullback, but he has shown in recent weeks that he can carry the ball, too. He carried it a season-high 10 times against Buffalo for a season-high 56 yards.

Last week he scored a touchdown on his only carry of the game.

While Evans enjoys carrying the ball every once in a while, he doesn’t expect that to be his full-time job. Laurence Maroney and Kevin Faulk are proven tailbacks and Evans’ major role in the NFL has been opening up holes for the running backs and protecting the quarterback on pass plays.

“A running back, I would never want to be one. But now that I’m here, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else,” Evans said.

When asked whether he was comfortable running the ball, Evans said, “Of course.”

“Really, I’m comfortable with anything this offense asks of me,” Evans said. “I’ve been here long enough now to know basically every little thing about this offense. [Tom Brady] kind of exudes confidence for everyone in that huddle so you kind of just get in and go to work, and he makes things simple.”

Faulk practiced only once this week and Maroney (foot) did not play last week in the first half, so Evans said that if he is asked to play more, he’ll welcome the challenge.

“I’m thankful to [Bill] Belichick and to [vice president of player personnel Scott] Pioli for seeing [in me] a little bit of what they wanted here, and to give me the time to adjust to the system and make a spot for myself. I’m proud to call myself a New England Patriot. I like how things are done here. I love being here.”

Billick blames turnovers

Baltimore coach Brian Billick thinks that one of the keys to Monday night’s game will be getting off to a fast start.

The Patriots have outscored their opponents by 107-24 in the first quarter, while Baltimore has been outscored by 43-13.

Billick also said the main reason why the Ravens are struggling so much early in games is because of turnovers.

“We can’t turn the ball over,” Billick said. “I mean, the Patriots certainly don’t need a short field to continue to do what they’re doing, and that’s been our nemesis. When we don’t turn the ball over, we’ve done some pretty good things. But when we turn we ball over and put our defense on the short field, or take ourselves away from a scoring opportunity after a drive, it’s hard to win as is evidenced by our record.”

The Patriots are plus-13 in the turnover category and have turned the ball over a league-low nine times, while the Ravens are minus-11 and have turned the ball over 28 times.

“When you handle the ball, you carry the entire fortunes of the team with you,” Belichick said. “No matter who it is — center, punter, quarterback, running back, defensive player on a turnover, returner — whoever it is, there’s nothing more important than possession of the ball.

"So it’s a tremendous amount of responsibility, and anybody that has it needs to understand what the importance of it [is], and the importance of doing all that they can to secure it.”

Pats’ two-pronged attack

Billick says the Patriots are so dangerous on offense because they have the ability to both run the ball and pass it, which keeps defensive coordinators guessing.

“I think they have the ability to be as balanced as they want to be,” Billick said. “They’re going in and doing whatever they think they have to do to move the ball. I’ve never been one to believe, and it doesn’t look like they are, that you’ve got to run to set up the pass or pass to set up the run. If you can throw the ball, throw it. If you run it, you run it. And they have the capacity to do both. I don’t know that their running game has fallen off. If it has, it’s by design because they thought they could do and get done what they needed to get done the other way. They’re capable, if that fits the game plan, to come out and run the ball 50 times, too, if they want to.”

Injury list

Baltimore quarterback Steve McNair (left shoulder) and wide receiver Demtrius Williams (ankle) are listed as “out” and tight end Todd Heap (thigh), cornerback Chris McAlister (knee) and safety Gerome Sapp (thigh) are listed as “doubtful” for Monday’s game.

The Patriots don’t have anybody listed as doubtful on their injury report.

roblee@projo.com

[Kevin From Connecticut]

I got the pic that I am using as my avatar (currently) at the opening game against the Bills at Gillette Stadium last year. It was on the finger of one of the marketing executives and it's from their first Superbowl win.
nice piece of jewelry.


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http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=622529&imageID=9966173&MyToken=28ee01e6-5d70-44be-b296-0f3e00f036ad

for a closer look

[Hamptons Howie]

Let's see if they can win like the JETS did yesterdee.

[chris612]

ahahahahaha.... They better!!! you crack me up dude!

[Tony's bitch]

Tonight should be easy & ugly.

[Tony's bitch]

Wow!! Baltimore had the game, if the stupid coach wouldn't of had called the TO. It seemed to me on quite a few pass plays, that Brady had plenty of room to run for some decent yards, but forced throws.

[watson]

hail mary, 3 yards short

jesus h christ

[Hamptons Howie]

HA HA HA STILL THE BEST!!!!! It don't matter how bad they played the are still UNDEFEATED!!!!

[teeheejimmy]

I'm a Pats fan, but I really don't like this team.

[Kevin From Connecticut]

Brady to Moss ..... AGAIN!!!!

[Hamptons Howie]

Wow this is getting tougher every week to watch them win.

[Tony's bitch]

I'm a big Steelers fan, I thought they would have a good shot at taking the Pats down, but damn are the Pats a great team. They just figure out what the other team is doing to them defensively then adjust and win games.

[drtwoball]

The Saints are goin' ALL-THE-WAY!! UGGGHHHHHHH

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[Hamptons Howie]

Smith serves as Pats' motivational speaker
Alex Marvez / FOXSports.com
Posted: 10 hours ago

Mocking Patriots fans chanted "Guar-an-tee! Guar-an-tee!" late in New England's 34-13 whipping of Pittsburgh.
Anthony Smith didn't need a reminder.

Pittsburgh's second-year free safety should have already learned two valuable lessons: First, don't talk trash about the opposition — especially before playing the Patriots. Second, if you have an incurable case of Joey Porter Disease and simply can't shut up, then back up your boasts.

Neither Smith nor the Steelers — who were widely predicted to give the Pats a game — came close.

By guaranteeing a Steelers victory and saying Cincinnati's wide receivers were better, Smith made a mistake bigger than his mouth. The Patriots (13-0) needed fourth-quarter rallies to win their previous two games against Philadelphia and Baltimore. If that wasn't enough motivation for improved play — let alone the ongoing quest for a perfect season — Smith's words provided extra juice.


"It's almost like when you go to a pizza shop and say you want extra sausage," Patriots strong safety Rodney Harrison said. "That was an extra topping."

On Sunday, Smith was baked. He botched coverages on Tom Brady touchdown passes of 63 and 56 yards to Randy Moss and Jabar Gaffney, respectively. The latter score put Pittsburgh (9-4) behind by double digits for good early in the third quarter. Smith bit on a slow-developing Patriots flea-flicker, then couldn't recover in time to swat Brady's toss away from Gaffney in the end zone.

Asked whether Smith was being targeted, a laughing Brady said, "He just ended up being in the right place at the right time."

Brady, though, wasn't smiling when charging to taunt Smith following his first touchdown pass. Smith said he didn't hear what was said, while Brady declined to repeat his comments because "if my mother read it, she wouldn't be too happy."

Most victory guarantees in the NFL have become cliché, but Smith's jabbering struck a chord. Moss said Smith's statements were discussed in meetings and helped the Patriots focus better in pre-game preparations.

"I've played in the league for 10 years and I don't think I've ever heard a player say something like that," Moss said. "I know there's trash-talking each week, but to guarantee a victory? That was something hard."

Blaming this blowout loss entirely on Smith would be unfair, as the NFL's top-ranked defense had an overall collapse. In particular, Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor couldn't handle Moss (seven catches for 135 yards and two scores) in single coverage, and injured strong safety Troy Polamalu was sorely missed. Pittsburgh also never sacked or sufficiently harried Brady, even with New England fielding a one-dimensional offense.

After the Steelers cut New England's lead to 14-13 late in the second quarter, the Patriots scored 20 unanswered points while calling 33 consecutive pass plays. Brady connected on 24 of them as part of his 399-yard, four-touchdown outing. The only time Pittsburgh applied pressure, Brady scrambled for a 4-yard gain.

"Tom Brady doesn't make mistakes," Taylor said. "He's going to capitalize on your mistakes. That's what makes him so great."

Pittsburgh's offense couldn't keep pace and squandered opportunities in short-yardage situations. The Steelers had first-and-goal from the 7-yard line and a third-and-two from New England's 26, but had to settle for field goals on both series.

Pittsburgh then sealed its fate after failing to score on two snaps from the 1-yard line early in the fourth quarter.

"They scored touchdowns and we needed to score touchdowns to keep pace," Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward said.

Afterward, Smith was oblivious to what impact his guarantee made in New England's locker room. He also expressed no regrets for opening his mouth and even said "we'll see (the Patriots) again" in the playoffs.

When explaining the rationale behind his pre-game comments, Smith said, "We come out here every game to win. In this league, if you walk into the arena and play to lose, that's really not the kind of guy you want to play with."


But the same can be said of someone who yapped like Smith and then failed to deliver.

"You've just got to be smart with your words," Ward said. "I mean, when you play the best team in the NFL, you don't need to give them motivation or bulletin-board stuff to feed off of."

Guaranteed.


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[Hamptons Howie]

Steelers now talk of awe, respect

BY PETER GOBIS / SUN CHRONICLE STAFF

FOXBORO - In hushed tones spoke Anthony Smith. In respect spoke Ike Taylor. The pair of Pittsburgh Steeler defensive backs could only speak praiseworthy of Tom Brady, of Randy Moss, of the New England Patriots.

As Smith, Taylor and the Steelers were serenaded to a chorus of "Guaranteed" from New England Patriot fans early Sunday evening at Gillette Stadium, Pittsburgh is not yet in the exalted class of AFC teams as the one that just exercised a 21-point shellacking.

Smith, the second-year safety, was eating and talking the Patriots' humble pie after being victimized more than once by Brady (32 completions), by Moss (135 yards on seven catches), by a New England attack which had seven receivers catch balls, totaling 421 yards and 13 second-half first downs.

"Talking is part of it, I just want to play my game," said Smith, who was verbally accosted by Brady after the Patriot QB tossed a four-yard scoring strike to Moss late in the first quarter. Brady never intimated what words of wisdom he chose for Smith, but it was an earful.

"I don't regret it, we came up here to win," said Smith, who, with Taylor, was turned inside out by Moss on that play. Then Taylor was beaten cleanly, taking the bite on a 63-yard scoring strike from Brady to Moss on the first play of the Patriots' third offensive series.

The Steelers, with the No. 1 defense in the NFL - in average points allowed (12.9) and average yards allowed (230.8) - were unable to put enough pressure on Brady (one sack) to make a difference. Not even to make a statement.

"Two or three plays got to us," said Taylor, a cornerback. "We're an aggressive defense, but you've got to respect what he (Brady) does. They've got some great players."

So great that Brady had his sixth 300-yard-plus passing game of the season, four TD passes to boost his season's total to 47, the third highest total ever in NFL history; so great that Moss has the most single-season TD receptions (19) in Patriot history and his 54th career 100-yard plus game; so great that Wes Walker became just the fourth New England player with 90 or more receptions (93) in a single season.

"The Patriots were a better team, we couldn't stop them," said Steeler coach Mike Tomlin. "We couldn't make critical plays, big plays defensively - if that's the measuring stick, we're not close!"

The Patriots scored 20 unanswered points, shutting out the Steelers during the second half, Brady completing 20 of 26 passes.

"We've got to eliminate the big plays," added Smith as Moss (63-yard TD), Jabar Gaffney (53-yard TD) and Welker (three pass receptions over 15 yards) victimized the Pittsburgh defensive secondary. "We beat ourselves."

The Steelers attempted, at times, to have the 6-foot-1 Taylor cover the 6-foot-4 Moss with some help from Smith. It didn't work well very often. "That's the challenge," said Taylor. "You're going up there, trying to get your hands on the ball, but he's (Moss) a freak of human nature. You've got to respect what he does."

The Steelers conceded only 22 yards rushing to the Patriots, but didn't have a takeaway. "You have to make more plays than the other team," said Steeler LB Larry Foote. "They're good, no doubt about that."

The Patriots had scoring drives of 89, 50 and 89 yards in the second half against a Steeler defense which was also ranked No. 1 in the NFL in pass defense (154 yards).

"You can't make mistakes against these guys," said Steeler safety Tyrone Carter. "They wait for you to make mistakes. The tempo that he (Brady) was going at, he started going too fast for us. He's very smart, getting them in the right plays, seeing the blitz coming in."

The Patriots handed the Steelers not just their fourth loss, but their worst loss of the season, the most points Pittsburgh has surrendered.

"They executed at a high level and we didn't," added Tomlin. "That still doesn't mean that they should go up and down the field like that on us. The reality is that they rang the scoreboard up on us."

[Monkey House]

Wow this is getting tougher every week to watch them win.

I love every second of it. :)

[pat from lowell]

By Associated Press | Monday, December 10, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | N.E. Patriots
Patriots open as record 27-point favorite over Jets

LAS VEGAS (AP) _ The New England Patriots [team stats]’ record-setting pace includes the betting odds, too.

The undefeated Patriots were made a 27-point favorite over the New York Jets [team stats] in the opening line for Sunday’s game at Foxborough, Mass. The line dropped to 24 on Monday, which would match San Francisco’s record point spread over Cincinnati on Dec. 5, 1993, according to Keith Glantz, co-author of the Glantz-Culver Line. The 49ers won that game 21-8.

On Dec. 3, New England was a 20-point favorite at Baltimore, a record for a road team. But the Patriots barely won, 27-24.

New England is 13-0 after routing Pittsburgh on Sunday, while the Jets are 3-10.

There’s much built-up animosity between the teams. Patriots coach Bill Belichick did not want Eric Mangini, then his defensive coordinator, to take the Jets’ heading coach job in 2006. And New England was caught using video to spy on Jets assistant coaches during the season opener in September.

"On the Patriots side, the Jets are the team that turned them in, and they’re going for an undefeated season," Glantz said of the spying incident that cost Belichick a $500,000 fine, and cost the team $250,000 and a 2008 first-round draft pick. "So they’re not going to let up. When the Patriots are not playing the elite, they tend to run up the score. The opponent just can’t seem to stop them."

Still, the spread opened at 27 and went down three points.

"Part of the reason for the drop is the possibility of poor playing conditions," Glantz said. "If the weather is bad — ice, sleet or rain — it will affect the game. Cold won’t affect the game, it goes more with the field conditions.

"It is very difficult to make a line for this team; I have never seen a team get such high lines. The public has not gotten off the Patriots bandwagon." They beat the spread on this one. I predict 56-10.

[chris612]

They beat the spread on this one. I predict 56-10.Dont bet on it pat.....your goin DOWN, buddy!!!!

[chris612]

[QUOTE=Hamptons Howie;65953]Steelers now talk of awe, respect

yawn...

[Hamptons Howie]

/ Associated Press
Posted: 1 hour ago

The spy games between the New York Jets and New England Patriots began last season.
The Jets were caught videotaping at Gillette Stadium last season and the Patriots had that New York employee removed from the area, according to published reports Wednesday. Jets coach Eric Mangini said his team received permission to film behind both end zones during the playoff game in January.

"We taped the game, is what we taped, and we taped end-zone copy of the game, and we tape a double end zone, which is standard operating procedure for us," Mangini said Wednesday. "We request that every single road game, and it's usually granted if physically it's possible. And when people request it from us, we do the same thing: We grant it."

Mangini maintained the Jets did nothing wrong, and had filmed at New England during the regular season without incident. It was nothing like what the Patriots did earlier this season, when a New England employee was caught taping New York's defensive signals and punished by the league.

"We do it every time we go on the road," Mangini repeated. "We ask for permission to do it. It's within the league rules, and when people ask us to do it, we grant it, as well."


When asked why the Patriots stopped the Jets if they had already given them permission, Mangini just shrugged.

"I don't know," he said. "Really, it just was what it was. We had asked for permission, it was granted and then that changed, and we respect their decision. It's their stadium."

Mangini was also asked if the Jets were, at all, taping the Patriots' defensive signals.

"No," Mangini said smugly.

He was then asked if the Patriots requested similar permission to have someone taping at various angles or end-zone angles. Again, Mangini replied simply: "No."

The Jets have not asked the undefeated Patriots if they can film from the end zones this Sunday at Foxborough.

"Just didn't look to get permission," Mangini said. "Didn't think it would be granted."

New England coach Bill Belichick refused to address the situation during his news conference with Patriots reporters.

"There's a lot of things that have happened in the past," Belichick said. "Really, the past is in the past."

Patriots players were also staying away from the issue, much as they did when Pittsburgh's Anthony Smith guaranteed a victory over New England last week.

"It just doesn't matter. Who cares?" safety Rodney Harrison said. "It has no impact whatsoever, just like when Smith made his comments. It has no impact. The game isn't won or lost through the media Monday through Saturday. It's won or lost on Sunday, 1 o'clock. It's whoever makes more plays."

This is just the latest in the long-running rivalry between the teams. After helping Belichick and the Patriots win three Super Bowls as a defensive assistant, Mangini left to become coach of the Jets. The relationship between the two has been frosty since.

Things got even chillier after a Patriots video assistant was caught taping from the sidelines during their game against the Jets in Week 1, a move some speculated fueled New England's drive to perfection. The NFL punished the Patriots by taking away their first-round draft pick, fined them $250,000 and fined Belichick another $500,000.

A league rule prohibits teams from using a video camera on the sidelines for any purpose. In the Jets' case, they were filming from the end zone. The Jets film from both end zones during practice, a common procedure used by NFL teams.

"When you practice, anytime you practice, you try to shoot the unit from the sideline and then from the end zone behind them, so that you can see hand placement, fits, that type of thing," Mangini said. "That's how you watch practice every day. That's how you evaluate practice every day. And it's the same thing with games. You like to have that same copy because, really, that's just an extension of the evaluation."

Mangini was unsure how many teams have asked for similar permission from New York, but said the Jets have granted it to those that have. He also said the Jets have not been turned down by any teams this season.

"It's usually just a function of whether there's a location that we can do it from or not," he said. "It's a pretty common courtesy."


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[Hamptons Howie]

/ Associated Press
Posted: 3 hours ago

Jerry Rice plans to congratulate Randy Moss if the Patriots receiver breaks Rice's record of 22 touchdown catches in a season. He'd feel better if Moss didn't have extra time to do it.
Rice set the record with the San Francisco 49ers in just 12 games in 1987 when a players' strike shortened the season. Moss already has played 13 games for unbeaten New England and has 19 touchdowns receptions.

With three games still to play, will he break the record? Probably.

Will Randy's record be as impressive as Rice's? Probably not.

"The only thing that bothers me a little bit is that I did it during the strike year," Rice said. "It was 12 games for me. If he had done it in 12 games, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But I'm still going to congratulate him and do all of that.

"But I'm surprised the league is taking it upon themselves to give him 16 games to do it."

Moss can't do anything about that. All he can do is leap high — higher than the shorter Rice did — and make acrobatic catches. Sometimes he twists in mid-air to grab the ball. Other times he needs just one massive hand to snatch it away from a defender.

One thing, though, rarely changes: When the 6-foot-4 Moss jumps in the end zone against a smaller cornerback, chances are he'll come down with the ball.


"He's having a phenomenal year," Rice said in a telephone interview. "With Randy Moss, my God, you've got everything. You've got speed. You've got jumping ability. You've got size."

Moss has a touchdown catch in 11 of the Patriots' 13 games and faces the New York Jets and Miami Dolphins at home before finishing the regular season at the New York Giants.

Rice had at least one scoring reception in all 12 of his regular-season games in 1987. In his 11th game, he broke the record of 18 set by Mark Clayton of Miami in 1984 when he caught two scoring passes to reach 20. He even ran for a score that game, a 35-7 win over Atlanta, and ended the year with 23 touchdowns.

Rice caught only 65 passes that year, meaning more than one-third went for touchdowns. Moss already has 82 receptions.

Moss is a much better player than he was in Oakland last season, when he caught just 42 passes for three touchdowns in 13 games.

"It's good to see him go to New England," Rice said. "He seems to be just enjoying this and a totally team player, because in Oakland he completely just gave up. You could tell by his body language that he was not happy being in Oakland and for him to go to New England, he's having a ball."

Like Moss and Tom Brady, Rice was part of an outstanding combination in 1987; two actually. Both Joe Montana and Steve Young played quarterback that year and Young threw the record-breaking pass.

"You've got to have that chemistry, man," Rice said, "and I had it with Montana. And then after Montana left I had to develop that with Steve Young and it's all about practice.

"It's like poetry in motion, because things are happening out there and it's happening at a very fast pace and you just react to it."

That's what Moss did when he made perhaps his most spectacular catch of the season, a one-handed, leaping grab over the middle for a 17-yard gain in a 24-20 comeback win at Indianapolis that made the Patriots 9-0.

That, Rice said, was the best catch he's seen Moss make this year. Could he have made it?

"I would have certainly tried," Rice said. "He has an ability that I don't think anyone else can match."

With two touchdown catches in last Sunday's 34-13 win over Pittsburgh, Moss moved into second place ahead of Clayton and Sterling Sharpe, who had 18 scoring catches in 1994 with Green Bay. Moss also had two seasons with 17 touchdown catches with Minnesota, in 1998 for an NFL rookie record, and 2003.

Rice set the career record of 197 in 20 seasons. Moss, in his 10th year, has 120, fifth in NFL history behind Rice, Cris Carter Terrell Owens and Marvin Harrison.

But it's not too late in his career for Moss to try something new with the Patriots — shake the tag of being reluctant to go over the middle and take a hard hit.

"They're running him on underneath routes and doing everything and he's showing a side of him that he hasn't shown before," Rice said. "Randy was never the type to go across the middle and now he's doing that and he's making catches, and he's also doing his thing going deep. He's just a gifted receiver."

Patriots linebacker Junior Seau played against and is good friends with Rice. He sees similarities between the two receiving greats.

"You're not going to find two more competitive guys on the football field," Seau said. "Randy has worked so hard to get to where he is right now and he's reaping the fruits of his labors."

Another similarity: both were draft day steals.

Moss wasn't taken until the 21st pick, by Minnesota. Many teams were concerned about his off-field troubles and wondered about his attitude.

Rice went 16th to San Francisco with a choice the Patriots gave the 49ers in exchange for a pick in the first round, center Trevor Matich, and one each in the second and third. There were questions about his college competition because he played at Mississippi Valley State.

So New England missed out on perhaps the greatest receiver in NFL history. Now, more than 20 years later, Moss is having one of the best seasons ever by a wide receiver.

"If I had looked throughout the league, I'd probably say it was going to be Marvin Harrison or Randy Moss to break my record," said Rice, now an analyst for Sirius NFL Radio.

He didn't even remember whose record he broke in 1987. And the touchdowns came so quickly, he lost count.

He does know he missed four games because of the strike - one that was canceled and three more with replacement players before the regulars returned. The 49ers finished 13-2 that season, but lost in the first round of the playoffs, a game in which Rice finally failed to score.

"I was fortunate to be able to get to 22, and Randy has a chance with three games to go," Rice said. "He'll exceed that with no problem at all."


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[chris612]

Wow this is getting tougher every week to watch them win.
its the eve of the Big game....Dare i say ,upset of the yr!?:argue:

[Hamptons Howie]

Don't get excited over the weather. It's nasty here it will be a fun one.

[Kevin From Connecticut]

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14-0

[chris612]

Don't get excited over the weather. It's nasty here it will be a fun one.

Jets came close, but as usual....ahhh you know!!!:slap:

[Hamptons Howie]

So sorry.....

[Kevin From Connecticut]

wow, did this thread die or what?


btw, 15-0

[Monkey House]

wow, did this thread die or what?


btw, 15-0

A lot of sour grapes. Poor babies! :)

[Hamptons Howie]

There's still one more game to go, but in case you haven't been watching, here's a quick look at the NFL and franchise records your 2007 New England Patriots have already set:

NFL Team Records
. Most consecutive wins to begin a season (15)
. Most consecutive wins within a single season (15)
. Most points scored through a season's first 15 games (551)
. Most points scored through a season's first 14 games (523)
. Most points scored through a season's first 13 games (503)
. Most points scored through a season's first 12 games (469)
. Most points scored through a season's first 11 games (442)
. Most points scored through a season's first 10 games (411)
. Most Players Scoring Touchdowns in a Season (21, tied with the
2000 Denver Broncos and 1987 Los Angeles Rams)
. Most consecutive wins by 17 points or more to begin a season (8)
. Most consecutive games scoring 34 or more points to begin a
season (8, tied with the 2000 St. Louis Rams)


FRANCHISE RECORDS SET OR TIED IN 2007
Franchise Team Records
. Most Regular-Season Victories (15)
. Most Points in a Season (551)
. Most Points in a Game (56 on 11/18/07, tied total from 9/9/79)
. Most Points in a Half (42 in first half on 10/21/07)
. Most Touchdowns in a Season (71)
. Most Passing Touchdowns in a Season (48)
. Most Players Scoring Touchdowns in a Season (21)
. Highest Point Differential in a Season (312)
. Most First Downs in a Game (34, 10/28/07)
. Most Wins Against Divisional Opponents (6)

[Stug Shunt]

16-0. Congrats Pats. Nice comeback from a 12 point deficit.

[Hamptons Howie]

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[Hamptons Howie]

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[jmwjet2]

very impressive! only reason im not a hater this year is cus i drafted brady in the 3rd round for my fantasy draft and won the league and some $$$$ :D

[Hamptons Howie]

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[FalconsGuy]

That Tom Brady is pretty good.

[Shawn]

I hope they win the Super Bowl...other wise this means nothing. I am rooting for them all the fucking way though....


Go ahead and hate me Bostonites.. I like the Pats because Brady went to Michigan not because he plays for NE. I'm drunk.....oh and #17

[Wickedballs]

I will say that I am glad that the giants played the entire game FTW. I wish the outcome was different but I give all the Patriots and their fans all the respect in the world. I hope the outcome is different in the Super Bowl though. Prediction for the Super Bowl Giants 27 Patriots 24

[Tony's bitch]

16-0 congrats to the PATS.

[Lee-Mels]

They did what a great team does they were down and came back late. The '07 Pats are definitely I think the best football team I ever watched well except for maybe the '86 Giants.

[Hamptons Howie]

Ok so now I get to sit back and watch which lamb is headed here for the slaughter.

[Hamptons Howie]

By BARRY WILNER
AP Football Writer
The Associated Press
updated 6:22 p.m. ET, Thurs., Jan. 3, 2008
NEW YORK - Spygate be damned! Bill Belichick of the unbeaten New England Patriots is The Associated Press 2007 NFL Coach of the Year.

With the Patriots motivated by a spying scandal _ and owning the deepest talent base in football _ Belichick guided his team to the first 16-0 regular season in league history.

That was enough to offset the major blemish on Belichick's resume: a $500,000 personal fine, $250,000 fine for the team and the loss of a first-round pick in the upcoming draft after the Patriots were caught videotaping New York Jets coaches during the season opener.

Spygate didn't stop 29 of the 50 voters on a nationwide panel of media members who cover the NFL from voting for Belichick on Thursday. In a season highlighted by many strong coaching performances, Belichick beat out Green Bay's Mike McCarthy, who received 15 votes for leading the Packers to a 13-3 record and the NFC North title.

"This is definitely a team recognition, but one that I appreciate very much on a personal level," Belichick said in a statement issued by the club.

He also won the award in 2003.

"If anyone is deserving of such an award it really is Bill," Patriots owner Robert Kraft said. "I know the energy and effort and planning and time (he puts in). He's had his foot on the pedal all year, just working so hard and always doing everything he can to put the team in a position to win first."

Does Kraft believe this award will silence the critics?

"What I've tried to say is the only way that'll go away is if we just keep on winning, and winning convincingly, and I think he did it," Kraft said. "He did it and I think the fact that he got this award speaks to that."

The first coach since Don Shula in 1972 to lead his team through a spotless regular season, Belichick won the award for the second time in four years. In 2003, the Patriots went 14-2 and won their final 12 games. This time, Belichick's team rampaged through the first part of the schedule, then won a handful of close games on the way to 16-0.

"You know, I think back to sitting in the stands," Kraft said of his days as a fan before he owned the team, "when we went 1-15 and 2-14. And, you know, I saw the '72 Dolphins, and to see this team perform the way it did this year, and in the end, he is the conductor. And he's got some great players, but he's the conductor and I just think the job he did was superb."

While the perfect journey this season seemed somewhat joyless as the Patriots followed the lead of their detached coach, there was no denying Belichick's ability to motivate. His players used Spygate as a rallying point, cultivating an us-against-them mentality that clearly worked.

Belichick is involved in all personnel decisions, meaning the additions of Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Donte' Stallworth to the receiving corps had his touch.

Plus, Belichick is a master at game-planning. Add that skill to the deepest offense in the league (a record 589 points, including an NFL mark of 75 TDs) and a stingy defense that yielded 274 points, fifth in the league, and there's, well, perfection.

"There are three things that get better with age: good cigars, red wine and to me it looks like coaches who have the ability," Kraft said. "He's really hit his sweet spot and I'm really happy for him personally."

Also getting votes were Dallas coach Wade Phillips and Jacksonville's Jack Del Rio (two each), and Indianapolis' Tony Dungy and Tampa Bay's Jon Gruden (one each).

The only other Patriots coach to win the award was Belichick's mentor, Bill Parcells, in 1994.

Since joining the Patriots in 2000 after an unsuccessful head coaching stint in Cleveland (36-44), Belichick has turned New England into the center of the NFL universe. The Patriots have won three Super Bowls this decade _ no other team has more than one _ and are 91-37 in the regular season under Belichick. They have won the AFC East five straight years, with no fewer than 10 victories in any of those seasons.

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[Hamptons Howie]

HA HA HA Good Bye Payton

[Shawn]

Go Pats Go

[Rapekit-and-Crawlspace]

Oh Good Lord, who gives a shit?! I hope either the chargers destroy them in the AFC Championship game or the Favre and the Pack kick their ass in the superbowl. Fuck Brady and the Pats...WE GET IT, they won all their football games. Pieces of shit.

[Hamptons Howie]

Oh Good Lord, who gives a shit?! I hope either the chargers destroy them in the AFC Championship game or the Favre and the Pack kick their ass in the superbowl. Fuck Brady and the Pats...WE GET IT, they won all their football games. Pieces of shit.WOW last time I checked Mr Fav-er-a has 0 wins in Dallas Good Luck with that one.

[Hamptons Howie]

Ok so now Fav-er-a Has the Giants to deal with.....

[Kevin From Connecticut]

"2 hours and 18 minutes before the Pats start their 2007 season, let me say "Pats win over whoever the NFC sends", for their fourth Superbowl since 2001"


originally posted on another messageboard on 09-09-2007


my prediction still looks pretty good

[Kevin From Connecticut]

Oh Good Lord, who gives a shit?! I hope either the chargers destroy them in the AFC Championship game or the Favre and the Pack kick their ass in the superbowl. Fuck Brady and the Pats...WE GET IT, they won all their football games. Pieces of shit.

waaaa

[Hamptons Howie]

Almost time............

[Hamptons Howie]

Oh Good Lord, who gives a shit?! I hope either the chargers destroy them in the AFC Championship game or the Favre and the Pack kick their ass in the superbowl. Fuck Brady and the Pats...WE GET IT, they won all their football games. Pieces of shit. No QFT for you, SHITDICK HA HA HA

[Hamptons Howie]

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